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good read

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:18 am
by P.Haire

Re: good read

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:30 am
by Rhoad Racing
sa-drift.com per drifting.com wrote:The Team SA R34 has recently been deemed ineligible for the Formula DRIFT series in it's current state. The team has been accessed several fines, penalties, and faces possible removal from the series if the issues are not remedied.

The main issue stems from the vehicle's current OEM front strut suspension setup. The setup, being OEM, is in compliance with the Japanese version of the rulebook but apparently not with the English version according to the current interpretation. Despite the suspension setup remaining OEM and from the same chassis, Formula D currently has deemed it ineligible. The decision has come as quite a shock to many in the series as a decision to allow the Scion tC to compete in the series seemingly put to rest the same issue at the start of the season. The decision effectively made the chassis, not the model, the deciding factor in vehicle eligibility. (a decision we are very much in agreement with) Unfortunately, for Team SA, consistency with this ruling is not being seen, leaving many to wonder how level the playing field is when what applies to one vehicle, does not apply to another.

The other question that has been left unanswered at this point is why, if the model of the car is now the deciding factor instead of the chassis, the current OEM suspension setup on the R34 has not been allowed. Considering that it is using OEM parts and does not give the vehicle an unfair advantage, the question remains. We must also note that several other vehicles in the series have more drastic changes in suspension design. Are these suspension changes unapproved and deemed ineligible now as well? At this point, we cannot comment on the situation as we have more unanswered questions than answers.

Formula DRIFT has yet to respond to requests for a description of the appeal process to this decision, or a detailed list of previously given rule exemptions. We fear that neither exist, and the series is unprepared for this type of action. The lack of both puts several vehicles in the series in question. Formula DRIFT Chief Steward has already stated that "we have several other actions pending with other competitors," leaving us to wonder if they will be subject to the same fines and penalties.

Despite the rulebook's lack of a appeal process, or a list of previously allowed exemptions for specific vehicles, and TIME, Team SA is continuing to explore options to have this decision overturned, seeking a sense of consistency, balance and fairness to be restored to the series.
http://www.drifting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25213

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:36 am
by Generz
Complaints about a Skyline with some OEM parts in light of all the other cars that are 'questionable'?

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:48 am
by P.Haire
don't let them fool you, there is nothing normal about that skyline. i just think it's funny that it was the FOERST car. personally i think it's because that car doesn't have a big american sponsor.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:51 am
by POOPscandal
RWD Scion TC: OK

RWD R34 GTR w/ s14 bits: NO

wat?



run what you brung, fuck professional drifting.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:51 am
by collink
That's pretty weak...

Sounds like some NOPI Drift shit to me...

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:58 am
by revel
sounds like scca autocross guys.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:04 am
by P.Haire
revel wrote:sounds like scca autocross guys.
kinda sorta, cheating is racing, it's part of the fun.
collink wrote:That's pretty weak...

Sounds like some NOPI Drift shit to me...
wat?
NOPI lets you do anything.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:09 am
by POOPscandal
nopi lets you have extinguisher systems.

p.s. fuck nopi.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:05 am
by VRT nenders
OMG...I'm calling Roo right now to get the skinny.....I can't believe this isn't up on ZT with tons of cheers.

I saw the car and say "who cares".....its not like it's going to help it win any better. Fuck, so I guess half the fuck Pro series is illegal now?
I'm going to have to say FD needs to attend a management skills conference. If one person makes it to the 4th round before getting called on something then someones not doing their job.
FD = another reason why drifting is dead.


*edit nm it's 03:06am, I'll call tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:03 am
by Skwid
vrt eggroll wrote: drifting is dead.
YAY! I can has JetSprints now?!?!?!?!

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:13 am
by Greg
this my opinion about so-called "professional drifting"

FWD to RWD conversions, moving suspension chassis points, changing wheelbase, should all be illegal if you want to keep a series somewhat affordable, competitive and interesting.

you find a RWD car, with a good wheel base, same manufacturer engine swaps and change bolt-on pieces and run whatcha brung. from there on out it should be drive talent that shines through.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:31 am
by Skwid
Unless this is a timed event where you cross a finishline to win, you should be able to drive whatever the fuck you want.

I am currently building a Panzer tank and plan to run D1 as Team Hitler next year...wish me luck.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:33 am
by Greg
my point is they want to allow certain mods on this car, and disallow certain mods on this car, be consistent at least.

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:37 am
by Skwid
My point is, who the fuck cares...it's not a timed event with a finishline. Let them run whatever they want. Why does it matter? It's a joke.

Drifting in the U.S. is almost dead. Thank dog.